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from now, the united states is going to have to step aside and let china take the top spot. christine romans is here with me to explain what this is all about. >> so this is a report that the 17 different intelligence communities in the united states put together every four years for the incoming administration. the lay of the land for what you're facing leading the world superpower, the united states. and this report finds that 350 years of an ascendant west will be reversed and you will see asia as the dominant superpower once again, going back to its position that it held in the middle ages. here's what it found. you'll have asia leading by 2030 in size, in terms of gdp, military spending, population size, technology investment. the largest economy will be china. it will have overtaken the united states, even before 2030. you will see global economic crisis. you will see the majority of the world's population out of poverty for the first time in world history. >> and a huge middle class, all of a sudden, right? >> middle classes around the world, and they will be the driving politi
in congering this new horizon under his leadership. you have these leadership changes in china and japan next week, and it gives them a leg up in coming back to the negotiating table as a stronger country because they've demonstrated this long-range technolo technology. >> so you look back at april and the embarrassing failed launch. it has a lot of people wondering how this successful launch could come so quickly on the heels of the other, and it also has people asking who may be helping north korea at this time. obviously, iran enters into the picture when people do discuss this. is this something that is a game change for us in terms of how to deal with north korea and iran at the same time? >> i think it's a pretty big deal. the april launch was not successful, but if you track their launches going back to 2006, the 2006 and particularly the 2009 tests were fairly successful. so the fact that this one came about, whatever happened in april was something, some mechanical problem was catastrophic, but this test was clearly a success. yes, there is cooperation between iran and north korea. e
company, they had a tough year, but china is rebounding and make a lot of money. >> caterpillar on global recovery. what do you think of that. >> i like cater pillar for quite a long time. whether or not the economy recovers, it's a good. >> neil: what are you buying? >> vanguard re-index. the criticism i wanted to pick something, it has a generous yield. >> neil: i love that company. i love vanguard. i love reit and it's a great gift. biggest index of them b.t.
: charms what do you got. >> an amazing company, they had a tough year, but china is rebounding and make a lot of money. >> caterpillar on global recovery. what do you think of that. >> i like cater pillar for quite a long tim whether or not the economy recovers, it's a good. >> neil: what are you buying? >> vanguard re-index. the criticism i wanted to pick something, it has a generous yield. >> neil: i love that company. i love vanguard. i love reit and it's a great gift. biggest index of them b.t.
for government efficiency, at least in china, ge's ceo's stunning analysis of the communist economic and political system. record finds for wall street's money laundering bank of record, mexican drug cartels, middle east terrorists, african dictators all among hsbc's clientele, and no one is going to jail? why not? legal experts join us here next >> british banking giant, hsbc agreed to pay a record dollars 1.9 billion to settle allegations it landerred money from mexican drug lords, and sanctions transactions from iran illegally. lenny brewer said that the scale of hsbc's operation was stunning. >> at least one occasion, hsbc instructed a bank in iran on how to format payment messages so that transactions would not be blocked or rejected by the united states. lou: brewer however also defended the decision to not prosecute the bank, he said. if authorities pressed charges hsbc would almost certainly have lost its banks license here in this country which would have cost thousands of jobs, joining us now to assess this, and more, former prosecutor alease wheel, and artie idala . is --
you about how they delivered in china. they said china would be it's second largest market. schultz talked about getting ip to the tea business. i mention all of this to understand that starbucks doesn't go in for idle chatter when it goes in for these meetings. it has a track record of following through on these plans. we want to know how the us business is doing. and you need to hear about international. europe, don't forget, green mountain, it has been huge. starbu starbuck's should tell us what it is going to do with it's cash. they have the cash to do it. i prefer them to grow with the money. this is a major bone of contention. i think it is good. the bears, they seem to think that the coffee could be played out. starbucks will tell us about the new juice store concept. maybe it will give us insight to what could end up being one of the three top markets for the company india. i can't wait to hear about the projections about india. and of course they need to address teavana. i thought this could be a terrific move. seem to be quite popular. the earnings as early at 2013. not ju
the new chain. burger king has similar joint ventures in russia, brazil, south africa and china. >> more than 14,000 dock workers on the east coast and the gulf are threatening to go on strike on sunday. brian takes a look at the impact it could have on the economy. >> they move everything from our clothes to toys and electronics through the ports and into the marketplace but a lot of the goods won't be making it to our stores in longshoreman at more than a dozen ports from main to texas go on strike. that's what could happen by sunday if a deal can't be reached between the major shipping companies and a union representing nearly 15,000 longshoremen. >> the impact would be great. obviously on the dollar value side. on the cargo handling side but also on the job side because again these sports are major economic generators. >> richard of the maryland port administrator and others say the economic damage from a strike would reach well beyond the docks. >> your mom and pop retailer to your farmer to the trucking company that has to pick up the container atmosphere the port. so not just at t
. charles: not yet. stuart: investors are character out on apple losing market share in china and samsung stepping in and fox and friends host as resident tech guru, here is the question, clayton, has apple lost its cool? and also, netflix in trouble with the sec over facebook status, what? find out why after this break. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't kn it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life togeth where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. gethe mercedes-benz on your wi list at the winter event going o w thugh december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 e350 for $579 a month
about apple losing its cool in the u.s. it looks like that's true in china. the iphone 5 at a very chilly reception for its beijing launch overtight. so, nicole, i think that apple is down again. >> it is, again, down over this, 3% right now. you're talking the 514 range. aen what happened to the $700 range and that's ubs this morning, they kept their buy rating, but reduced their target from 700 to 780 talking about china being one of the issues and not being able to build there. stuart: and the iphone 5 in beijing, there was a snowstorm, okay, a mild snowstorm, there were only two people in line to get those first iphone 5's in china. that's it. only two people. i think that's got something to do with the apple decline this morning. >> you know what, if you really want something, wild horses and snowstorms won't keep you away. stuart: so, i think we can conclude that maybe apple's losing a little of its shine, a little of its cool. maybe, i don't want to be too pejorative here, just maybe. nicole, thank you, down 10 in the early going. i want to take a look at rim, research in mo
a satellite into orbit. its neighbors are unnerved. even china expressed regret at the move. the obama administration condemned it as a provocative act and will likely ask the u.n. security council to impose crippling sanctions. the pentagon following developments this morning. chris lawrence there. what do you know, chris? >> right now, officials say that object that north korea put into orbit, monitoring it, analyzing it, but they confirm it is in orbit. why is that important? the same technology you would use to put into orbit is the same technology you use to develop long-range ballistic missiles, the u.s. condemned this act. they are worried about the marriage of north korea's nuclear weapons with this long-range missile technology. this is the type of missile that if it was successful, as it appears to be, could reach parts of the united states, alaska, u.s. military bases in hawaii. but a u.s. efficiently i spoke with who used to work on north north korea for the defense department told me, there are still areas in which north korea has not made it as far as they would need to i
campaign saying president obama was responsible for jobs, cheep jobs, being sent over to china. something that never happened. here's parts of it. let's listen. >> obama took gm and kries ler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler who were going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for every american job. >> of course, that's the jeep ad, michael crowley. sometimes these guys get caught in realtime because the governor of the state and everybody said didn't happen. >> right. well, chris, this is one of those wonderful examples where something can be factually accurate and still a complete lie. in other words, the language in that ad i believe stands up. that chrysler was going to begin making jeeps in china. >> for chinese. >> right. right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto-companies do this. obviously, that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered thems enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think they were desperate to win ohio. maybe it was a net loss. >> i think it's one of those thin
to be real focused. look at equities with a little bit of a china exposure because china is starting to bottom a little bit, we think, so that's where i would focus. the number one thing and the greatest clarity i have in 26 years in this business, stay away from interest rate sensitive bonds and stay away from bond funds, and that's what you need to be doing right this moment. >> so you go on equities then, all in in equities then? >> let me tell you, if you're going to be an investor for longer than two years, stay away. if you need fixed income, run away from interest rate sensitive bonds. >> what about the fiscal cliff, you think we get a deal by the end of next week? we going to get a deal? >> i don't see a long-term deal. >> it's pretty easy to come to that conclusion, brian, given the fact that they have had 13 months to discuss this and think about it and now we're down to 18 days to deal with medicare, medicaid and defense spending, what, social security, taxes. what else can we throw into the bucket? >> yeah. you can just throwing more and more in. i think it's clear that t
the underlying economy is improving. now you get china. if europe can stabilize, i think we can go much higher. >> how many days, if you add headline that monty was thinking about, going out and bursceloni was thinking about coming back. follow me on twitter. and "power lunch" begins right now. >> halftime is over. "power lunch" and second half of the trading day starts right now. >> and here we are. welcome to "power lunch." as you can see, we are beth here on the floor of the new york stock exchange. and stocks are higher as fiscal cliff song and dance continues in washington. mr. boehner says he is waiting for a proposal from this gentleman, the president. president obama. and the president is set to speak about the cliff and the a economy later today. >> i thought i was supposed to come here today. you thought you were supposed to come here today. so we are both here. not really, folks. a lot of talk today is about what investors should do if we go over the cliff. what should we do if there is a debt deal before year-end or shortly thereafter. we have smart strategies and individual stock
point to someone in china. john lucas is an internet security expert and the international president of high-tech crime experts. did i get your last anytime right? >> close. megyn: thanks for the clarification. now, he's on his personal computer, but he's on government sort of property doing work for the government on his personal computer, and he's talking to people who still have all the clearances and so on, and why do we believe it was the chinese? >> well, what happens is when the fbi or anybody gets involved and started tracking this back, we're going to trace the ip addresses and the connections that gives you a connection from where the source is coming from. now, i guess they ended up in china, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it could have been someone from china. somebody could have hacked in from another country and started that attack from a chinese server inbound to the u.s. but the fbi's very, very, you know, keen on this stuff, so i'm sure the end source was china. megyn: they say that he not only is he, obviously, the former chairman of the joint chiefs, but th
rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought it up during a trip to a daimler truck factory in redford, michigan. this is what he said. >> this so-called right to work law, they don't have to do with economics, everything to do with politics. what th
, the stock market is undervalued right now because of all the noise in europe, the fiscal cliff, and china. with that in mind, i think your best bet is to stay near normal valuations for 2013. > there is nothing you want to take off the table right now, right? take some profits home so you don't have to deal with the tax gains issue of next year? nothing? > > put it this way: i would rather be in financials and materials than i would be in energies and utilities. so if you are overweight in energies and utilities, perhaps sell that. i think the best group next year is going to be financials and materials. > run with the banks. good to have you on the show. that is larry shover of sfg alternatives. > > thank you. legislation dramatically shrinking the power of unions has won approval in michigan. last night, governor rick snyder signed two bills into law that change michigan into a right-to- work state. thousands of protestors for and against the measure staged demonstrations inside and outside the capitol in lansing, michigan. despite shouts from pro-union workers, the gop-led house okaye
unions d, as mark said, create a middle class. the problem is international competition. once in china and japan and all these countries start making stuff cheaper, it is problem for unions, and that is just a reality. >> it is also reality that some of that manufacturing is coming back, and not because of low wages. because of transportation costs, innovation, all kinds of things. what bothers me about this vote is that it was ught and paid for by a few wealthy people. the leader of the senate, the governor, both on record not want to do this initially . they did it turn around. and lost five seats and the legislature. >> you can look for all the conspiracy's you want. the fact is that michigan was adjusting to exactly the reality that evan isalking about, globalization. i think was glory days for the unions 94 is, 1950's, 1960's, when the rest of the world was devastated by the second world war, we had a monopoly and, yes, great benefits to it the problem is that when you have global competition, you are uncompetitive. detroit went bankrupt but the southern transplants did not. here
of santa's route. he follows every new year's. he just was in russia. now he's over the great wall of china. previous to that, he made his way to australia. you can see him flying past the famed opera house there. so he's delivered all of his presents in australia. all of the presents in russia. all the presents in japan, and also south korea, and, of course, now he's busy in china, on his way, of course, over here to the united states. we'll keep you posted. >>> wreaths across america. it's a program that's become part of the healing process for military families around the holidays. today's giving in focus takes a look at a tree farm in maine that helps turn greece into finding peace. >> i know when chris died, we kept thinking about how we were going to remember him. and we kept thinking that his spirit was moving through the trees every time you saw them moving. i seem to be drawn to maine even though i've never lived here. it's pretty amazing. >> we're in the wreath business and have been since 1971. columbia falls is a little town in coastal washington county. the perfect little count
be on the the way, they've got one already, how is that working out? and china may be the number one economy soon. really? "varney & company" about to begin. >> right off the top, breaking news for you now. fox business learned that a group claimed to be aligned with terrorism is threatening to launch a massive attack against u.s. bank websites and made that threat in the fall and this is a new threat set to start this week, we hear. and a list of banks targeted includes j.p. morgan chase, bank of america, u.s. bancorp, pnc financial services and suntrust banks. more details when we've got them. the power and might of unions on display today and being tested. you will see huge protests at the state capital building in michigan where right to work legislation will be signed today. that means workers will be able to choose if they want to join the union. they will no longer be compelled to pay dues. here is the president speaking at a daimler factory in michigan yesterday. >> we do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we
production in china and the united states. a barrel of oil now just under $87. eighteen days from the fiscal cliff. the president looking back, addressing claims that he wants to create a socialist system in this country. the president saying if he had been president 25 years ago, there would be a shockingly different view of him and his politics. >> the truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if i had said the same policies, i have had been considered a moderate republican back then. lou: i don't know whether he believes that or not. it is great have a team with us. >> i'm not sure he could have gotten elected 25 years ago as a kid. obviously, he was pretty social step backward in time. lou: he says he has outgrown all that. >> by the definition of what you are, he is pretty left-sided as far as i'm concerned the. lou: the idea that the president came back in the so-called negotiations. it is either a farce of this process or whatever you want to call it -- but telling speaker boehner that all he really wants your is $1.6 trillion in tax breaks, and oh, yeah, he will
to care for the baby they adopted from china, and they were hoping to adopt another child, but finances were tight and so on. now of course they can afford to do all this. but they seem very decent, i say ordinary, i don't mean ordinary in any kind of negative way, i just mean regular americans. >> yes. they are very grounded. they have strong bonds with their family. they really enjoy their family. they will definitely take care of their family now. >> let's play a little clip, this is of cindy, who bought the ticket, at the press conference earlier. >> i didn't have my glasses and i was thinking is that the right numbers, is that the right numbers? and i was shaking and i called my husband, i said i think i'm having a heart attack, god blessed us with this. and for some reason, he put it in our hands. i think to make sure that it goes to the right things. and -- but we were blessed before we ever won this. >> how do you guys find out about this, walt? >> since we're pretty familiar in the community, several people in the community started texting us about, oh, 9:00 that morning, and y
a prerequisite. low cost living over all. we see gasoline prices dropping by $0.08. a lot of growth china not using as much oil. that is behind the price drop. >> some taking long trips on the holidays it is easier to stop along the way. >> some have stakeouts south carolina was the lowest. i will tell them to fill up the tanks there before we go on the road. >> a lot are pulling out the stops so they can spend some money. >> also get in the mood, too. bobble bar have a physical location in new york city they have free scotch in there to try to loosen them up and purchase a few more bobbles out there. the gap banana republic giving away a fee at. you have starbucks $250 gift card membership cards there with free coffee or a month. they are pulling out all of the stops to get you there. >> you have the least satisfying careers and most satisfying careers. >> my plan.com looked at the top 300 and bottom 300 of jobs out there. let's look at the least happy person. mail clerk. i am not talking about the box office. perhaps this is motivation to get out of the mail room and move up the ladder.
has a healthy respect for government efficiency, at least in china, ge's ceo's stunning analysis of the communist economic and political system. record finds for wall street's money laundering bank of record, mexican drug cartels, middle east terrorists, african dictators all among hsbc's clientele, and no one is going to jail? why not? legal experts join us here next. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which inclus investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-sizprice. this is awesome. [ male annncer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go
and one weak geek. he when satisfied to giving thousands of jobs to china when he was on the board of gateway commuter. >> a small counter protest by the pro rights to work group americans for prosperity was targeted by some of the angrier union workers. americans for prosperity had a tent that was partially closed down. steven crowder was actually punched several times. this is an issue that means a lot to a lot of people at least three people were reportedly arrested during yesterday's sometimes out of control dem station. >> the fox news contributor will be on fox and friends later today. in the meantime let's keep about this theme and look at who is talking today. >> he is saying this is the right choice to the state according to unemployment numbers right to work verses nonright to work. this was 'tis take last night. >> it's a tough choice. i sympathize with the unions in a global economy when you have to compete on wages and other elements you can either have high wages with low employment or you can spread around the wealth. in the right to work states unemployment is 6.9 p
the jeep factory heading to china and the nonsense heading to work requirement for welfare and the pathetic claim that president obama spends his time out there in the world apologizing lost. it really did. and maybe, just maybe, the reason the people telling the most truth won. and the people telling the most untruth lost. it's for that very reason. we were, all of us, paying attention because it really mattered. that's "hardball" for now. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks for tuning in. tonight's lead, republicans are picking a fight they can't win. new evidence today that president obama is in a strong position in this nation's fight for fairness. and republicans are on the losing end of this fight. now, new polls show 65% of americans believe the president does have a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy. 62% say he's got a mandate to protect medicare. and 64% says he's got a mandate to protect social security. that is a winning hand. the president has it and he knows it. >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle clas
to bangladesh. they used to produce a lot in china. they've decide wages are too high in china. they moved toward bangladesh which has the world's lowest minimum wage for a country that does serious manufacturing about $37 a month. and walmart sears other countries look to bangladesh because they want to produce apparel at the very lowest cost and they're worried if they invest a lot more in, say in wages or fire safety, that might force them to pay $5 a shirt rather than $4 a shirt and they worry that will make them competitive. my sense is having to talk to experts is western companies import about $18 billion worth of apparel each year from bangladesh and it might cost a billion or $2 billion to get several thousand apparel factories in shape to prevent fires, to provide fire escapes to provide good, safe stairways for people to come down. and i think the thinking is that might raise the price of apparel by 2%, 3%, which wouldn't kill us if we have to pay 50 cents more for a $20 shirt. >> jennifer: that's the iss
in places like china? >> yeah, well, take this robotic device i just-- this is a medical device and under the obamacare law, medical devices will be subject to a tax because they have to pay for obamacare. >> paul: yes. >> this is the sort of thing, if we keep doing will suppress the growth of technology in this country and then again, there's the issue of immigration policies. a lot of this technology driven by engineers who come from asia, silicon valley and has been the result of immigration into the united states. if we don't stand in the front of these things, we can grow. >> paul: dan, thank you. coming up in our second half hour, a look ahead to 2013. is the economy poised for a comeback or high unemployment continues to drag us down. get ready for obamacare, what to know as key provisions kick in. ♪ constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. >> live from america's news headquarters, i'm heather
like china? >> well, take the robotic device . this is a medical device. under the obama care law medical devices will be subject to attacks because they have to pay for obama care. this is the sort of thing that if we keep doing will suppress the growth of technology in this country, and then there is the issue of immigration policy. a lot of this technology drefn drefn -- t driven by engineers and silicon valley has been the result of immigration in the united states. if we don't stand in front of these things we can grow. >> thank you. >>> coming up in our second half hour a look ahead to 2013.k is the economy poised for a come back, or will slow growth and high unemployment continue to drag us down? and get ready for obama care. what you need to know as some key provisions kick in. >>> it was terrifying moments at a phoenix bank. workers arrived to find one of their co-workers with a device around her neck, but the device was harmless. she was taken hostage the night before and held against her will overnight. police say the man who did it took her to the bank this morning and
in china where a mad man attacked an elementary school in china with a knife with 22 injured children. not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as possible like in a military situation. no one can object to a ban on the sale of large ammunition clips so you can't reload. no one can object to microstamping of card ridges to trace the murder weapon. no one can object to eliminating the gunshot exception so even if you buy a gun at a gun show, they still have to check your background to make sure they are not selling to someone on a terrorist watch list or mentally unstable person or a felon. those ares we should do. >> we had a heated debate on a previous incident. two things happened in 1996. athere
it anymore. he wasn't satisfied with outsourcing thousands of jobs to low wage china when he was on the board of gateway computer. he wants to turn michigan into the same low-wage environment we see in china. >> reporter: as you look at state troopers out here right now, some are equipped with batons. look at their hips. what they have on their hips there are gas masks. you can see some weapons they're carrying. nonlethal weapons that would be used to dispurse the tear gas if it was needed to. as we bring up we heard someone shouting in the background it has been a peaceful demonstration. it has. there was trouble on the first day. eight people were arrested. a little bit of tear gas went out. here in this demonstration, things have been peaceful. nothing more than a lot of people showing up in numbers expressing discontent with the legislature and the speed with this legislation and speed which it moved through the legislature, jenna, mike, we saw a sign behind you. it said there is war on workers in the state of michigan. what is the primary gripe of unions and their members? >> reporter: w
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. if you look at the facts, 32% of our manufacturing base has been gutted and sold to china, india, any foreign country that has cheap labor. the top patriotic american companies are parking their profits and offshore accounts so they do not have to pay a fair share of their taxes. the bottom line is since the late '70s, the wealthiest 2% in this country are making 25 times their wealth that they made a black -- back then. there are only paying 40% more in taxes. this country is doomed if we do not start putting terrace of the imports coming into this country. the republican party is selling you an outright lie. thank you. host: let's show you a facebook posting. the economist and professor at the university of maryland will be with us and about 25 minutes or so. he will take your calls and give you his economic outlook for 2013. he has written a lot on the matter. from west virginia, independent. caller: is, sir. i would just like to say that i am not very optimistic above the future of the united states right now. we are in so much that it is pathetic. our budget is way over. this pre
it over the last 8 years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion from the first 42 presidents, number 43 ed a $4 trillion by his lonesome so we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we're going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >> so, unpatriotic. >> the hypocrite in chief says in 2008 that 5 from is unpatriotic but now we're up to $16.4 trillion. that's okay. by the way we move my credit card limits. he doesn't want a debt ceiling going forward. >> debt ceiling no more can congress deal when the president says we're going to raise the debt ceiling. no squabbles back and forth. >> let me get this straight. borrow $4.8 billion a day and now we're coming to the edge ever the fiscal cliff. republicans are saying hey, let's continue the bush tax cuts, let's make this fair for everyone but let's stop spending. we are spending more than we have. democrats are saying now they are saying it doesn't matter, we are not focused on the deficit any
with this, the british, the french, the germans, russia, china, they all tend to view this as a proliferation problem. the conversation between iran and the other side tends to be about that issue, very narrowly focused. to kind of move that conversation, you have to figure out a different kind of architecture. the five plus one process, as such, is designed to deal with the corporation issue and the composition is that has to do with the iranian violation of the mpt and there have been 62 -- six security council resolutions that suggests sanctions. there are two countries who suggest that the issue between -- that this is not a proliferation issue but has to do with the character of the regime and one of them is israel who does not view this as strictly an arms dispute and the second one is iran who similarly suggests that although it is an arms control issue, they are really using arms control as a way to undermine the regime. there are two actors in this particular conflagration who are not accepting the argument being that this is about nuclear infractions as oppo
but also offer a great opportunity. you see, what i find in africa today is that china has an increasing presence on that continent. china has a plan when it comes to the future of africa. america does not. that's why i'm going to offer as an amendment to the tag bill, which is currently pending before the senate, the american jobs through greater exports to africa act. my partners on the bill are senator chris coons, senator ben cardin, john boozman and mary landrieu, as well as support in the house from representative chris smith. at the heart of this bill is the creation of jobs in america. exporting more goods to africa will help create jobs here. every $1 billion in exports supports over 5,000 jobs. i believe we can increase exports from the united states to africa by 200% in real dollars over the next ten years, and we can't wait any longer. if there are some who say africa is so backward and so far behind, what is it in the united states they can afford to buy if they even wanted to, that is old thinking. let me give you some new reality. in the past ten years six of the world's f
to help china, and china is the biggest abortion country in the world. when you throw all this into a big mixture, you cannot blame the gun. host: thank you for the call and comment. a bitter fight had on gun control, according to the washington post. we are following some of the options on what is next. speaker boehner is confronting a political cliff over the budget track is, putting out that the speaker's leadership and legacy remained at stake. they point out that in a show of support, house leader eric cantor. at a news conference with the speaker in a call to extend the tax rates. some have urged congressman tom price of georgia to challenge john deere for the job. much more on what is next for the fiscal cliff. one week before we reach that point. the deadline is december 31, january 1. the president is in hawaii. the house and senate are also in set -- in session this week. elliot engel, weighing in on a number of topics, including rumors that former republican senator chuck a bill could be nominated as defense secretary. you heard from the president on friday as he nominated sena
. as far as china is concerned, we don't tariff, we don't put that high of a tariff on their imports but yet i don't know the exact numbers but i believe it's a lot higher that they tax our imports in their country. and the whole thing with jobs. he created the apple scommuret in california in his garage but yet when he got successful he moves all his company over to china, giving chinese people jobs. if steve jobs was born in china he wouldn't even have a garage therefore he wouldn't be able to create the apple computer. so i just think we just don't do enough for the people of this country. and the people who are in position to create jobs and do this do not reinvest in the country. therefore i don't think they should get tax breaks. if you want to give these corporate giants tax breaks then give it to those who want to invest in the country, who want to create jobs here, not overcease, and they think try to think of ways to get their money over there into here lower than say the american businessman paying 35%. guest: i mean, i understand your frustration. i think part of it is th
panels in the world in china, also bought one of the solar panels. so they have brought a lot of money in for that small college. we need to have consistency in america and committing ourselves to preserving the environment, protecting us from global warming which is real and we need leadership coming from the white house every day saying we need to do something about global warming. that hasn't happened yet. my hope is in president obama's second term he'll be the leader of the world and not lagging behind the other nations in doing something about global warming. >> you're a nuclear engineer at one point, promoted nuclear energy. how do you make the distinction between nuclear energy for good use, good purposes, and for bad use? and iran's argument that they are creating nuclear energy for power and not as a threat to the united states, speak to the link between energy and national security. >> i was in charge of a development of the second atomic submarine and i was an early nuclear physicist. that was my graduate work. i had what's convinced then and now nuclear power for peaceful
you. dagen: a new report by the u.s. intelligence reveals china will have the world's largest economy by 2030. the councils global trend report takes into account factors such as localization and the environment. europe, japan and russia are also expected to continue to decline. connell: a matter of time, as they say. this fox business exclusive, we will talk about the war on business. it was a record year for anti-trust funds. dagen: the sanctions against iran. if this policy will change anything over there. the state of the economy and why it matters to you and this, the cost of crude oil. take a look at it. more than $86 a barrel. stubbornly high. ♪ >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life side down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you % today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they caopen bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. that's why you need lifelock to relentlessly protect what matters most...
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by using cheaper labor in china. china's also got middle managers to run the factories. chinese workers have been trained in skilled positions for decades. those same skilled positions have nearly vanished here in the united states. and chinese labor is the reason apple can afford to train americans and pay american wages right now. look at this apple's net income. $41.7 billion over the last 4 quarters. that ain't bad. in fact, that's almost $7 billion more than the next six companies combined. microsoft, ebay, google, yahoo! facebook, and amazon. they can't keep up. cheap chinese labor helped apple make almost $50 billion in the next fiscal quarter, alone. those profits allow apple to finally do the right thing. they're going to hire more americans. the ceo says he feels the company has a responsibility to create jobs. we wish more ceos would show that economic patriotism. it's a heck of a start. let's bring in e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor and "washington post" columnist and author of the book "our divided political heart." e.j., we need more stories like this. what kind of skilled
this is a much more global story. i think a lot of backdrop in europe and china has some improving trends in it that are behind this. >> if the market is such a great predictor, tell me where it was in beginning of 2008. then we had a total collapse. so i don't buy -- >> my response would be look where it was in march of '09 when you could have -- [ overlapping speakers ] the valuations weren't reasonable then. they are cheap now and even cheaper outside the united states. >> yeah. you just made my case for why it is i feel like going outside the united states. i'll let america settle it and figure it out on its own. >> all right. john, what are your clients telling you right now? jeff just said i think it was over the weekend that so many of their customers are clenched right now. that they're just waiting to see what the resolution of the fiscal cliff is that they're holding back on orders. is that the case with some of your clients as well? >> well, i think right now we haven't received the clarity of the election we were hoping for. i think both sides republicans and democrats are bas
this up near the yellow river which is right across from china: i have been there. you can throw a stone across, it's that narrow. the chinese are right there. the chinese had to see this one coming and it's done each in defines of the chinese. >> let's face it, the real thing in this thing is the chinese and they aren't happy about this. but what are their choice necessary can they pull back their support from north korea and watch the state collapse and watch, you know, millions of refugees flood into china or they can offer some minimum support to keep them alive. this is a criminal state, a mafia state. this is a state that's only run to support this ruling family of the kims, and the only reason they launched this rocket is not for scientific research, but to intimidate and blackmail the rest of the world so they can continue to get food aid, fuel to support this failing regime from the other states in the region. so this is nothing more than, as far as i'm concerned, and most people are concerned, this is nothing more than nuclear blackmail, greta. >> the thing that is so profoundl
an originator of new kinds of policies. if you take, for example, china policy i think that he may be reluctant to react to a china which is very different from the way it was in the past. >> brown: let me bring david ignatius back. i guess it depends on what you think is needed right now, right? >> i think the world's a mess as kerry believes. he's right. and needs a strong american voice. needs the sort of steady hand that some of these experiences can bring. i point i would make about kerry is that although he often comes across as a stiff, as an establishment figure very form layic, in terms of shall ideas an willness-- willingness to engage adversaries, reach out and try to find a channel to iran, for example, reach out to the palestinians, try to think of new ways to deal with the arab world, kerry is on the more innovative side. so i think he is not going to be a wild radical-- the country will miss having someone like susan rice who is a younger, different voice. but i think that kerry-- it's wrong to think of kerry of just being a throwback to 30 years ago. >> brown: is it clear still
room to run, more so from palladium and the positive data from china. back to you. >> sharon, thank you very much. breaking news to brian shactman, nfl bounty case. brian. >> nine months after this story broke, paul announced he's vacating all penalties on four players. they are exonerated. the key here is the players were not in favor of tagliabue doing this. spent three years, 50,000 pages of documents indicting players. they exonerated them. two of them might return to play this season. >> thank you very much, brian shactman. >> to nasdaq, bertha coombs following big movers there. we have the advance there as well. >> we do. nasdaq 100 outperforming thanks to apple's recovery. off of the highs of the day. nonetheless it is contributing about a third of the outside impact to the nasdaq 100. facebook will be added tomorrow. watch that going into the close. it will be trading in the nasdaq, emphasis trades over at nyc. yahoo! has a mobile app for mail. today at a four-year high. that stock continues momentum. couple of deal-based stocks, trip adviser with folks at liberty interactive ta
, numbers okayed here, heating up in china. people thought europe was contained, and it feels that way now. people looking past the headlines whether it's the fiscal cliff or europe. i mean, there's a lot of doom day sayers out there, and it makes sense, but it seems like everything right now is contained, and the trade is up to the upside. david: right. liz mentioned the fed decision coming up, should be hearing about it tomorrow. what's the market expecting from the fed? in what way will they be excited or disappointed? >> well, i think the market, if you look at the options market, the flows into the ten year treasuries, it's implying 85 billion per month. the reason i say that is right now, deals, what, 165 #, if that was not the case, yields should be up 180, maybe 183 right now so all the flow right now is pointing to 85 or 90 billion per month. liz: okay. none of us is going to fight the tape here, larry. we'll talk to you in a moment when the s&p futures close, but in the meantime, going to the panel, daifd. david: sam, chief equity strategist, and charles bitterman, trim tabs inve
or the executive branch can nullify a statute passed by congress. >>> no secret china is coming on strong as a global power. but a new u.s. intelligence report predicts how far and fast china will move. >> the national intelligence council says by 2030, just 17 years from now, china will likely have passed the u.s. to become the world's largest economy. the report says that overall, asia will top north america and europe with population, military spending and investing in technology. >> and one of the bright spots for the u.s., we are expected to become energy independent and the world's largest exporter by the year 2030. people talk about china and their booming economy over there, and this quantifies just how fast they are coming on. pretty amazing. >> the world's population is projected to rise to 8.3 billion from 7.1 billion. and demand for food will go up 35%, and demand for water, 40% more than current water supplies, making water a likely cause of regional conflict, particularly in south asia and the middle east. water and food. there's not going to be enough for us. >> what a brig
in germany or alabama. want them in lexington, kentucky or china? >> you mentioned germany. volkswagen opened a plant in chattanooga a few months ago, 2,000 new jobs. bob corcoran was down there. 2,000 jobs, every one of which started at $14.50 an hour. >> right. they're not all going to be at -- >> so volkswagen was moving these jobs here because we're the low wage country compared to germany. >> dude, are you suggesting we push these jobs away? >> i'm not. >> i would rather americans have a shot at a $17 an hour job than having it in china. >> i agree. >> find a way to do better. i actually agree with you. but you have to understand the consequences are pretty severe for american lifestyles. >> again, though, i'm sorry, mike, but the consequences are, we have two choices, we can't get 1965 wages, we either have these jobs in china or lexington, either have them in alabama or germany and this is at least for some of -- a chance for younger americans to get some good jobs. >> joe, if you're taking a job that pays $14.50 an hour. it means one of two things, a, you don't have a job so you're ge
intelligence counsel expects china will become the world's biggest economic power. but the u.s. remains the dominant military superpower and will become energy independent overall. we can expect to have 8.3 billion people on the planet. >>> as for more immediate concerns, the fiscal cliff is one day closer, with a stalemate over heading off huge tax increases and deep spending cuts at the start of the new year. president obama and house speaker john boehner are keeping tight-lipped about those talks. in michigan on monday, the president warned going over the fiscal cliff will cost jobs and send the country in a downward spiral. >>> colorado is now the second state after washington in which marijuana is now legal. that became the law yesterday, when the governor put a voter-approved amendment into the state's constitution. the implementation of the law will be worked out by a special task force. in a statement, the u.s. attorney noted that pot remains illegal, though, under federal law. >>> well, family and friends are remembering that navy s.e.a.l. who gave his life to rescue an america
and they are looking at progress hoping to avoid the fiscal cliff. australia taiwan, but china anti-want slipped -- and taiwan slipped a bit. analysts say the fiscal cliffs are taking a positive return. here is the nasdaq, and s&p 500 all posting moderate gains. >>> to many people's surprise the government will end up with a profit for the bailout of the end insurance -- of the insurance giant. a.i.g. may be able to pay a dividend to its shareholders by next summer, quite a turnaround. >>> they just lot a brainy battle. >>> and we have more on the new invention that will be launched into space today. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we muscled through it. is she for real? your generation has it made. [ male announcer ] the wireless receiver only from at&t u-verse. get u-verse tv for $
to china at the cost of the american jobs. ♪ lie, lie, lie ♪ ♪ you are a liar ♪ ♪ liar, liar pants on fire ♪ >> untrue statement of the entire year in politics. ♪ born born to liar ♪ ♪ born to be a liar ♪ >> stephanie: yay rocky mountain mike! [ applause ] >> stephanie: jacki schechner news woman extrordanaire. >> she's writing newscasts over here. >> stephanie: i don't care. >> i'm here. >> she needs time to make up the news. >> i'm picking up on the [ inaudible ]. >> stephanie: she is the one that decided to come in so i would bother her all morning, jacki. >> little delay in audio there. >> stephanie: yeah but this is a great piece. thomas mann and norman ornstein wrote a great piece -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: how the main stream media bungled the biggest story of the campaign. >> they used words like miss information. or questionable. or -- >> stephanie: right. >> why don't you say lie? it's quicker, easier zippier, and it's true. >> stephanie: right. even polititfact that's when it has gotten really sad -- >> well, both sides do it.
of an increase of industrial production in china and the united states. a barrel of oil now just under $87. eighteen days from the fiscal cliff. the president looking back, addressing claims that he wants to create a socialist system in this country. the president saying if he had been president 25 years ago, there would be a shockingly different view of him and his politics. >> the truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if i had said the same policies, i have had been considered a moderate republican back then. lou: i don't know whether he believes that or not. it is great have a team with us. >> i'm not sure he could have gotten elected 25 years ago as a kid. obviously, he was pretty social step backward in time. lou: he says he has outgrown all that. >> by the definition of what you are, he is pretty left-sided as far as i'm concerned the. lou: the idea that the president came back in the so-called negotiations. it is either a farce of this process or whatever you want to call it -- but telling speaker boehner that all he really wants your is $1.6 trillion in tax
on the share price. the market getting a little nervous about competition particularly in the china market. is it possible that nokia may have a crowd pleaser in the future to take on the iphone? i don't know. it is something analysts are chewing over and it's another reason why apple had another rocky day in the markets. >> jeff cutmore live from london. thank you. >>> there are alarming new developments involving the crisis in syria. pentagon sources tell nbc news there is specific intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas, a deadly nerve agent, into aerial bombs and is awaiting command from president assad for its use. it comes as the fighting grows more intense and the rebels continue to advance into the capital city of damascus. yesterday secretary of state hillary clinton repeated her warning that the u.s. is ready to take swift action. >> our concerns are that increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. we have sent an unmistakable message that
your report opens up. a tragic tale of a legal immigrant to this country from china, she was brutally attacked by an illegal immigrant from china, and after chen served his prison term, china refused to take him back. what happened? >> immigration officials in texas let him out more than once, and no point did they ever warn ms. wu this is a wider issue in the immigrant question. that's secrecy. they don't tell the public very much unlike the criminal system who they arrest, who they detain, and what happens to them in the case of ms. wu, she thought the man who brutally attacked her was in china and one day, three years later, he walks through her door and shortly after that kills her. >> why is this happening? why do we have no dodknowledge it? >> the immigration system says they are a civil immigration agency, they detain people they treat like criminals whether they have a record or not and they said that they believe that this is a private matter, that they need to protect the immigrants's privacy. so when we request the name of criminals, they said that the public interest in th
expensive to do business in countries like china. our workers have become even more productive. our energy costs are starting to go down here in the united states. and we still have the largest market. so when you factor in everything, it makes sense to invest here, in america. and that's one of the reasons why american manufacturing is growing at the fastest pace since the 1990s. and thanks in part to that boost in manufacturing, four years after the worst economic crisis of our lifetimes, our economy is growing again. our businesses have created more than 5.5 million new jobs over the past 33 months. so we're making progress. [applause] we're moving in the right direction. we're going forward. so what we need to do is simple. we need to keep going. we need to keep going forward. we should do everything we can to keep creating good middle- class jobs that help folks rebuild security for their families. [applause] and we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this -- wh
if it were any other way. let's take a step back and look how this looks if america jeects this treaty. china has joined, russia has joined. we are the country that set the standards on rights for the -- of the disabled. we want everybody to play by international rules. we lose credibility if we turn around and refuse to participate in a treaty that merely asks other nations to live up to our standards, our rules. i'd like to point out that we got a letter from the blind chinese dissident, guen chon chang talking about the plight of the disabled around the world and what a strong message it would send if the united states ratified this treaty. there's no reason why we can't say that we lived up to our obligations. we need to step up and do the right thing for bob dole and our veterans throughout the world. i'd like to enter into the record at this time a letter from the very well known internationally blind chinese dissident who recently left china miraculously and thank god for the efforts of our state department and our government. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: i quo
deal, it will be one of the largest ever by chinese investors. china's state owned oil giant c-nook swooped in to acquire nexen for a cool $15 billion. note to the obama administration, it is not happening in a bubble. last year you'll recall the obama administration put off a decision on the excel pipeline, an extension of a pipeline that would connect the oil in alberta to the gulf of mexico and international markets. the democrats killed it because of concerns from environmentalists. the proposed route crossed the aquifer in nebraska and white house and state department officials could have just insisted on rerouting the pipe, but they didn't. a bad move, one that was highly thought to play to the president's base. now that the elections are over, a review of a new route will begin sometime next year. the leakages of that pipe were a minor concern, though it got all the headlines. a more legitimate environmental concern is carbon emissions. processing crude that is mined from the oil sands emits double the emissions of regular drilled oil. but oil sands still -- that still s
of bermuda. >> reporter: they can take it to singapore or china. it doesn't to come back to america. there is no law which says if you make money overseas it must come back here. megyn: now they are getting upset overseas. the french tax authority removed computer files in italy. the tax police searched the come numbers milan offices. they say they don't believe they are paying their fair share of tax. that may or may not be true. but if it's legal how much can they do? >> reporter: it's perfectly legal. they investigated various companies and put pressure object them from a public relations standpoint. starbucks, for example, they weren't forced to hand over money but they were pressured into making a special payment of $10 million pounds, $16 million to the british chancellor of the exchequer. they did it for good p.r. maybe something similar will happen with google. they don't have to pay. they have done perfectly legal stuff. megyn: he reportedly turned down being treasury secretary, or the new secretary of business. he says it's called capitalism. we are proud to be capitalisti
] >> stephanie: for jeep moving they plant to china. >> what does this world come to for lie of the year? is the claim by the romney campaign that jeep was going to move its production to china at the cost of american jobs. >> the 2012 lie of the year -- ♪ guess what the truth is ♪ ♪ this can't speak anymore ♪ >> the most outlandish -- ♪ liar liar pants on fire ♪ >> stephanie: liar! ♪ liar ♪ >> untrue statement of the entire year in politics. ♪ born born to be a liar born to be a liar he was born ♪ >> stephanie: he was born that way. thank you rocky mountain mike. all right. so you have -- tina dupuy has the -- the 2012 naughty or nice list. >> that's right. editor and chief of thecontributor.com. >> stephanie: i was get doing that. good morning, tina. >> good morning, stephanie. >> stephanie: would you like some festive christmas music for your list? [ laughter ] >> my favorite. >> stephanie: i love -- first starting on the naught david petraeus for choosing a mistress who clearly cannot keep a secret. >> seriously. this is just a sex thing. we're obs
sectors? >> first of all before we ring the death bell on manufacturing, u.s. is above china. we are seeing a resurgence of factory jobs, guess where. >> gregg: southeast. >> why. >> gregg: right to work states. >> businesses don't want to move to places where unions are. in those southeast states, union membership tends to be half what it is on the national achblg which is only 12% right now. even though we see that unemployment is lower in right to work states, but wages are lower, as well. that is kind the tradeoff but businesses want to go there. we are seeing companies from china coming in into the u.s.. >> gregg: i bmw, hyundai, honda and you got american companies, g.e., boeing, apple, michelin, they like that southeastern region because that is where the unions aren't. final quick question, if congress fails to strike a deal it will get a whole lot worse? >> the cbo which is supposed to be non-partisan we're going into a double-dip recession. a lost taxes. you look at your paycheck, the first one in january you are going to see a lot less money. >> gregg: it's not just th
at a certain point. connell: are you worried at all about a slowdown in china? charles: europe is up. japan is. they will need natural gas and coal. global demand for this will be huge. this is one that i think people should own long-term. dagen: thank you. charles: by the way, i loved your interview with representative sanchez. dagen: thank you, charles. connell: a quarter past the hour, let's go back to the markets. nicole: we are looking at it now. they are digesting a big acquisition. as i noted, this is a top performer. it is up over 4%. let's take a look at the broader orchid and -- let's take a look at the broader market. the last time we saw this kind of trend it was up seven days. the dow is up. back to you. dagen: at it again. north korea launching a rocket. legitimacy of the regime. we will talk about that coming up. connell: to the stage for similar seeds in different areas of the nation. first, let's take a look at world currency. ♪ there is no mass-produced human. every human being is unique. and there is one store that recognizes it. the sleep nuer store. the only place in the
the treaty including china and russia. the treaty is modelled after existing u.s. law. former senator bob dole is 89 years old. he just got out of the hospital yesterday. and today he came to the senate floor in a wheelchair to support the treaty. eight republicans and two independents voted for the treaty including john mccain. but it wasn't enough. the treaty failed 61-38. >> it was solid then. he means it. and i think the organizing around it is so important. the labor movement, consumer groups, women's groups. >> i'm joined by a columnist for the nation magazine and howard fineman, msnbc political analyst. great to have you with us. howard, you first. when bob dole comes to the senate and he can't move people, where is the common sense? >> the senate is lost. that's the way i would put it. bob dole, one of the most revered figures. he's almost literally on his death bed a week or two ago. who summoned the courage to come to the senate to be the conscious on something he championed in 1990. this was senator bob dole, a republican. president george h. bush, republican. dick thorneberg,
about where china is going to go. the troubling thing about the departure from the labor force of so many people that is offsetting the increment is jobs is that over time, it seems like the percentage of the society that is active in the labor force is stagnant or shrinking. that kicks back to all the problems she is talking about, the entitlement program and so forth, which depend on the active population to support them. >> john: jump to the fiscal cliff. not just to it. charles, i read your column today and you made an interesting point that a lot of people didn't make that you see this is a political move by president obama to fracture the g.o.p. majority of the house, gain himself supreme power. >> well, that is because it's clear that the economic proposals, fiscal proposals won't do anything about debt. it's clear that his pretense that we are going to have to, that you can't get to the tax hikes he wants through rising, through raising the rates, without raising rates, he contradicts himself. he said exactly the opposite. so all of this is about the politics of it. he thinks
-tech immigrants from the united states returning home to china. lou: democrats to feed the stamp act, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. immigrants into this country who deserve it and to we desperately want to have your while we throw open our borders and our airports to people who are, for the most part, the majority of those illegal immigrants are not even high-school educated, lacks skills, like education. my god. and they do so rejecting that law, that bill and prevent it from becoming law because they want to have a lottery. for crying out loud. the absurdities compound themselves. >> in general we have to recognize that the individual entrepreneur with special skills and contributions to american produce all the jobs, and they are the ones who are getting rich, who are punished by any increase in marginal tax rates. the already rich -- lou: what about the young man or woman in this country who is not an entrepreneur, is not a big shot, is not in middle management in a big corporation. they won a break. they won an opportunity. they want to live the american dream. why c
to have in the euro zone and the energy needs in china and india and industrialized nations. what do you think is the biggest threat from the outside to the u.s. economy? >> the fiscal cliff. first of all i think there are issues that are beginning to improve and, you know, whether you look at the euro zone which is making progress, gradually, laboriously and certainly improving and with good numbers because if you look at thinge ia because if you look at thinge a greg gat euro zone debt, and you have political stability back now that the new team is in place so the volatility and the instability factors that are outside have reduced. the real threat that we have at the moment is really here with us and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at, i mean i understood that the european banks had sort of downsized or downgraded what they thought would be growth. you've got more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here. >> yeah yeah. >> are those things threats to the u.s. economy or do you think the u.s. economy now is destabilizing or has the poten
, those numbers are better. china's numbers have improved lately, and you have political stability back. so the volatility of the instability factors that are outside have reduced overtime. the real threat that we have is here, with us, and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at -- i understand that bangs being downsides our down afraided, you have more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here, are those things threats to the u.s. economy, or do you think it is now destabilizing, or has the potential to destabilize the world economy? >> i think because it is relatively closed, it trades with itself and immediate neighbors, is less vulnerable to what happens outside, for instance in europe. but, the consequences would be relatively minor. it is more exposed to it's own difficulties, and it's own issues, than to what happens elsewhere in the world, because it is such a large player. >> so we're our own 5,000 pound gor ri gorilla. >> let me ask you as a final question, january 2nd arrives, no deal, what will we notice first? >> lack of citizen,
can see, with the kospi up the most, 1.5 points. >> strong nebs out of china which suggest maybe the economy is rebounding more than expected. >> the exports. >> yeah. >> among the catalyst in asia trading today, economic stats out of china. export growths slowed sharply to 2.9% in december. that news j underscores the global headwinds dragging on the economy. but the chinese economy is showing solid signs of a pick up in domestic activity. industrial output was stronger than expected. the country has been saying for years it needs to shift a little bit from the export model the internal consumption. let their middle class grow and not be nearly as dependent on exports. and china's oil demand in november surpassed 10 million barrels per day for the first time ever. the country's crude imports rose to the second highest daily rate on record. analysts say this is further evidence of the chinese recover. and i saw this story on -- every once in a while i check tweeting. >> i saw it on google, too. kayla tausche reporting -- >> kayla beat nick dunn. >> nick dunn was quoting kayla. >>
years, it's become more expensive to do business in countries like china. our workers have become more productive. our energy costs are starting to go down here in the united states. and we still have the largest market. so when you factor in everything, it makes sense to invest here. in america. >> we're listening in as president obama addresses workers right outside of detroit at a diamler factory. i want to bring in mark murray again to at least highlight a little bit of what the president discussed. we know, mark, in michigan is there's a labor showdown right now and the president referred to good union workers, i believe that was the phrasing there, but nevertheless, earlier in the day, the administration said the president supports the unions, uaw but there's a showdown and supposed to come to a head tomorrow. >> that's right. governor rick snyder of michigan expected to sign in to law the legislation that would make michigan a right to work state. president obama in his remarks there didn't come out exples sitly against that legislation as the white house has done before but, ta
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